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The Topeka Kansas City Council wants to add an ordinance that would ban discrimination against homosexuals. Please vote yes in this survey to make sure they see that people do care about this.

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mcpierce
Nov. 17th, 2004 07:57 am (UTC)
It sucks that people see the law as the only way to protect themselves. I look forward to the day (hopefully I'll live to see it) when people will shake off this kind of prejudice. Sadly, laws will never change irrational hatred... :(
lahabiel
Nov. 17th, 2004 10:14 am (UTC)
I voted
It's 70-30 against. Sheesh. What is the mindset of these people? Even back when I was fresh off the farm and too ignorant to know any better, I would've still agreed that ALL discrimination is wrong. I'm just trying to imagine the counter-argument....

Dear Newspaper folk,
Please don't pass that law, cause it's fun to discriminate against queers. It's especially fun when you get to kick them. Thank you for watching out for us, and God Bless.
Signed,
R. Edward Neck


I wonder if the poll results would be the same if the word "homosexuals" was replaced by "blacks" or "women." I wonder if homosexuals would be allowed to vote if they could be identified on sight, like say ... blacks or women. Because historically speaking, America always eventually comes around on equal rights issues, but it's a painfully slow learner.

:(
mcpierce
Nov. 17th, 2004 10:26 am (UTC)
Re: I voted
Personally, I feel it should only be one rule that you cannot discriminate period. Why have special ones for each type of discrimination? When you start doing that you start entering into the vague world of thought policing.

Just like "hate crimes". Aren't all crimes punishable because they're, when you get down to it, about aggression? Does it make any real difference why the person aggressed against someone else? Whether it's because the other person is black, gay, jewish, handicapped, from another country or from parents who weren't married makes no difference. Crimes are about actions, not intentions.
lahabiel
Nov. 17th, 2004 10:46 am (UTC)
Re: I voted
I'll agree to most of that ... I think a crime is a crime, regardlss of intent. I think intent should only come into play regarding punishment, not rulings of guilt.

e.g. Aggrevated assault is a crime, regardless of intent. Assaulting someone because of their lifestyle is a hate-motivated intent, and should be punished severely. Assaulting someone because they're stalking you and the police won't take action -- I would argue the punishment should be reduced or waived altogether, as the intent was self-protection.
mcpierce
Nov. 17th, 2004 10:54 am (UTC)
Re: I voted
Self-defense is not an initiation of force but is a justifiable response.
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